On Topic But Not Needed

Does anyone still use this WikiTag? Is it time to delete this experiment?


New name for page previously called OnTopicButUseless?.

Links being remapped and contents will be moved here. Thanks for patience -- dl

This include all OnTopic pages that are in the SlooowDelete? process. They are marked for removal due to:

This is a page to list OnTopicButNotNeeded pages that hopefully not contentious. For people wanting to remove controversial OnTopic pages please use the IsThisPageOk? mechanism.

Typically an OnTopic page make it way here because it has technical information that is only of interest to historians. Keeping it around would only diminish the credibility of WardsWiki.

I suggest visitors of this page to check new additions, and if you find any redeeming value in some of the contents, MoveItElsewhere and delete the page (after removing links of course). In the unlikely case where the reader feel the page should not be deleted, then I suggest the contents of the page to be throughly edited to ensure its currency.

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Pages that are here in final days include:


EjbsAndDistributedTransaction concerns

12.145.34.103 deleted the page, which MicrosoftSlave restored, on account

Can we leave this page around for a few more weeks? It has been around for a long time and I have only noticed delete attempts now (Nov2004) on the page in the six month I have been here. I hope the warnings I have posted on the source page would direct people attention here, both people who wants to keep, and people who wants to delete. Thanks --dl

Jun05 DavidLiu stuck his fingers in this hot pie, hoping to have a treat instead of burnt finger. Various parties who contributed before and active at C2 at this time invited to continue the discussion. ---

OK folks, I'm here at David's prompting. Let's go way, way back. In the early days of J2EE (probably before Costin is remembering) the only JTA implementations came from the EJB vendors. You could get a JTA implementation(that allowed full 2-phase distributed transactions) from WebLogic or from IBM, or one of the other J2EE application server vendors and that was about it. Now, of course, that's no longer true. You can get a JTA implementation from many different places.

The real magic is in JTA, that's true. As stated above (which is true) EJB's hide JTA. No I seem to remember that at the VERY early stages of J2EE you couldn't even access JTA from the servlet containers in all J2EE app vendors -- I believe the mechanism for that (the standard JNDI lookup of the TransactionManager?) wasn't fully standardized until J2EE 1.2. (If someone could verify that I'd appreciate it). I certainly remember that in the early days of WebSphere (which has always hewn VERY tightly to the J2EE standards, much more so than other vendors) that this was true.


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