History of the events of the XpAdoptersGroupSwitzerland, latest first.
Friday 7. November, 2003
It was a bit lonely sitting at the bar all alone! Perhaps, next month someone else will turn-up.
Friday 5. September, 2003
Maybe do some CodeKatas? from PragDave? (aka DavidThomas)...??
See http://www.pragprog.com/pragdave/Practices/Kata for more information.
We were there - we did not code but have a beer or two. We talked about test coverage, SoftNet, and the number of attendees. Some would find it more interesting, if more (or at least interesting;) people would join, I found it good enough like this. --DanielSchweizer
Friday 20. June 2003
This time in Luzern and JeromeMueller will point us to a very nice Location there (I suppose..:-)
Please feel free to join us for a talk and a beer... DanielFlueck and JeromeMueller will be there.
And the location is: http://www.rathausbrauerei.ch/
They brew their own beer and are in a nice location.
Some topics:
- Teaching experiences (what happens when you do one big example project in many little steps)
- Danis speech about testing
- Case study: Talking to people of the opposite sex.
Tuesday 6.5.03 18:30 at ReithalleZuerich
DanielFlueck and JeromeMueller will be there and drink a beer. If anybody else wants to join, please feel free.
Beers sounds good: I'll join. DierkKoenig
Some topics:
- http://www.industrialxp.org/
- Baseball, Marathon and other sports
- Giving a talk about Testing for 1/2 hour. What should you say? Where should you start? Which should be the main topics?
- Again some points concerning EclipseIde vs IntellijIdea
- Problems of introducing XP techniques into a working (?) and productive (??) team.
Friday 7.3.03 18:30 at ReithalleZuerich
Because I'm not so self-centric to spend a meeting just talking about me myself and I, I postpone this meeting until maybe some others like to join again. (Hey Dirk, if you're not on the list, see what happens... ) :-) -- DanielFlueck
Topics:
- finally some reports from TheElephantsCemetery?
- * BerndGoetz
- Dierk, what elephant cemetery?
- * DierkKoenig
- Well, there is a 'convention' of German XP [big ear, long nose, grey skin, slightly overweighted] 'elephants' in Hamburg that weekend. I promise to tell some stories about that at the next meeting.
intends to come:
cannot come
- DanielFlueck (preparing for the Engadin-Skimarathon...)
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7.2.03 18:30 at ReithalleZuerich
Participants:
Topics:
1.11.02 18:30 at ReithalleZuerich
Participants:
Topics:
- How to get rich on the stock market: with neural networks and fuzzy logic! Ask Jens Christian (http://www.ivorix.com)
- I promised a link to IDA, here it is: http://fuzzy.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/confs/ida2003/
- How would you write a test for a neural network?
- Dierk got fairly hot at the issue of record/replay tools for functional testing
- The beer was ok and the spaghetti was really hot!
- Discussion on IDE's (EclipseIde vs IntellijIdea) and which one is better: EclipseVsIdea. At least one of the participants went home and spent $395 on IDEA...
- Discussion on testing of web interfaces and projects at large organizations with bad tools
- [I forgot all the rest - please fill here]
6.9.02 18:30 at ReithalleZuerich
Participants:
Topics:
- As usual, a lot of testing stories were exchanged.
- While sitting in the Biergarten, suddenly somebody shot into the air, a pair of policemen appeared chasing a suspect. It took like a second and the Biergarten was empty, except the XPAGS table, where people showed their total control over the situation by not reacting at all and drinking another beer.
- BigVisibleChart to visualize Team's progress in adopting XP.
- Experience of retrospectives at canoo. See also http://www.retrospectives.com.
9.8.02 18:30 at ReithalleZuerich
Participants:
Topics:
- Introducing Pair Programming where it is totally new to the programmers and some resistance is shown.
- The need for testing web applications unit and acceptance wise. Why record-reply tools are a pain in the apps. Link: http://webtest.canoo.com
- Story on transforming a struts-based webapp to bean style. Was it rewriting or refactoring?
- Different imaginations of "my perfekt day".
- [pls add what I missed]
Did you say struts-based webapp to bean style? I'm a bit behind, it seems. What is bean style in this case and what is the rationale behind this transformation? Please elaborate. -- HaskoHeinecke
5.7.02 18:30 at ReithalleZuerich
Showed up:
Topics:
- Our personal history with XP.
- XP for hardware control software (Kurt).
- XP for extremely small teams and short-lived projects (Bernd).
- The role of architecture and strategies to find a good one.
A cloudburst forced us to flee from the beer garden and seek shelter inside the Reithalle, where we occupied the bar...
7.6.02 18:30 at ReithalleZuerich
Topic: What happend at XpTwoThousandAndTwo?
Participants: DierkKoenig DanielFlueck MarcelRueedi
Topics:
- The soccer world championship.
- Lots of issues concerning functional and unit testing, e.g.,
- XpTwoThousandAndTwo highlights and lowlights
- Supercomputing in Z?
Decisions:
- Date and time will be every first Friday at ReithalleZuerich until other notice.
- The topics are not restricted to XP (they never were, actually).
- We will keep the event to be of an informal BirdsOfaFeather style.
8.2.2002, 19:00
Canoo Engineering AG, Kirschgartenstr. 7, Basel, see http://www.canoo.com/contact/findus.html
Participants: DierkKoenig, UrsKeller, EtienneStuder, JiriLundak, GrahamCunningham, AndreasReiss?, DanielSchweizer
Topics:
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- We added the above calendar sheet for finding a good date where most of the members are able to attend. Please increase the counter on days where you could attend and add your name to the "already increased" list. The date with the highest counter will be chosen at march 1st.
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- DierkKoenig points the group to the new yahoo group about TestDrivenDevelopment.
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- Urs and Jiri report about their experiences introducing XP at UdNeueMedien.
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- Graham mentioned that VCS system and promised to set a pointer, which he did meanwhile.
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- Graham and Andreas told about their current effort to build a next generation of XpPlanIt that works offline and with DragAndDrop. Technology base would be GrooveTechnology?. They gave a short demo and WOW! that looks really sexy.
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- Daniel reported on the working style of DaedalosInternational.
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- Etienne reports on the customer involvement style in his current project.
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- DierkKoenig shows how CruiseControl works at CanooDotCom. Example for this is CanooWebTest where there is online access to the build info at http://webtest.canoo.com. We went through a microiteration to see it working. Building is done with ANT, unit testing is done with ANT-JUnit integration, functional testing is done by applying CanooWebTest to itself (it is a functional testing tool) and ANT Integration, reporting uses specialized XSL, planning is done with XpPlanIt (public access).
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- Surprisingly, no reports about headaches so far...
11.12.2001, 19:00
Restaurant D�zaley Cave Vauldoise Ruhl� in Zurich.
KentBeck joined us for a very nice Fondue-Plausch. Thanks a lot to FriedhelmMetzen for organising this event. -- DanielFlueck
- Participants
- FriedhelmMetzen, MarcelRueedi, JeromeMueller, GrahamCunningham, DierkKoenig, UrsKeller, DanielFlueck and more...
- Topics
- How people can miss Swiss-Fondue in the UnitedStatesOfAmerica.
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- Different cultures and there preferences in ExtremeProgramming (maybe have a look as well at AmericanCulturalAssumption)
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- GalacticModelingLanguage
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- XpPlanIt
11.9.2001, 19:00
Restaurant Reithalle in Zurich. LisaCrispin from XpDenver will join us. -- PeterGassmann
- Participants
- LisaCrispin, RobertCrispin?, PeterGassmann, HaskoHeinecke, DanielSchweizer, JeromeMueller, GrahamCunningham, DierkKoenig
- Topics
- Lisa made the case for having a professional full-time acceptance tester in the team.
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- Graham and Dierk told about automated acceptance test experiences for the XpPlanIt project.
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- Lisa reported experiences with WebArt for testing web applications.
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- Graham reported experiences with TonicWebTesting?.
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- Jerome told about experiences when trying to refactor IDEAL-code.
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- Peter, Robert, Hasko and Daniel talked also about FineFrenchCuisine? and FineFrenchRedWines? from EntreDeuxMer?
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- Lisa submitted to have a presentation or any other kind of attraction for every meeting. This would have helped their group to grow fast.
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- [pls add what I have missed]
22.8.2001, 19:00
Restaurant Giardino
Tösstalstr. 70
8400 Winterthur
Organized by FriedhelmMetzen
- Participants
- FriedhelmMetzen, AndreasXXX, PeterGassmann, DanielSchweizer, DierkKoenig
- Topics
- We set out the goal to compile a list of SwissXpProjects?.
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- We discussed the setup of the new XP project at WinterthurInsurance?.
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- We found the Biergarten-atmosphere to be very convenient.
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- Peter will try to invite LisaCrispin for the next event, while she is in Switzerland for an XP event (see XpTrainingClasses).
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- We discussed whether XP is more than just a collection of good practices that a good programmer is doing anyway. We found that - yes - there is a lot more.
The Friday 20.07.01 gathering was held joyfully at the Reithalle in Zurich.
The event was attended by: JeromeMueller, HaskoHeinecke, PeterGassmann, MarcelRueedi, DierkKoenig, StephanMaier? and MartinJaekle.
Here's the URL of the paper I'v mentioned http://groups.yahoo.com/group/extremeprogramming/files/One%20Team.doc
-- MarcelRueedi
Besides getting to know each other we discussed several topics. One was the role of architecture, or rather infrastructure in XP. I've tried to summarize in InfrastructureInXp --HaskoHeinecke
Another question was how to give more people the chance to do Xp. We considered a one week bootcamp either free (for students) or as an commercial event. -- DierkKoenig
There was an event at the java user group switzerland (21.6.) dealing with VisualAgeJava Micro Edition and Xp Team support with the concept of "TeamStreams". See http://www.jugs.ch/html/events/2001/xpteamsupport.html
Speakers were KaiUweMaetzel? and ErichGamma (demo assistant) from ObjectTechnologyInternational.
The initial "come together" was Friday, 22.6.01 19:00 at FischerstubeBasel
The event was attended by: JosephPelrine, JeromeMueller, DanielFlueck, AndreasKapp und DierkKoenig.
The rather low attendance made it possible to have a lively discussion about our understanding of XP and our experience with it. The Ueli beer contributed to this end. It seems to be fully XP compliant: with a small initial investment we could "release" it early (right, Joseph?). As we were on-site customers we felt free to give this rapid feedback.
We enjoyed this informal group and felt no need for a formal "organization". But we did not exclude this as an option when the future "crouds" arrive.
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- Speaking for myself only, I must say that the group "refilled" my motivation and made me feel not being so much a geek. I missed the people that were not able to join up and I wished that some more would be so "agile" to make the train ride to basle. -- DierkKoenig
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